Is ActiveDen Dead? YES!

patrickjansen said

html5 is boring boring boring

boring

I notice today Jack new 3D Carouse in JS, but 6 years ago there was a kid name Rimmon that bring it to the world ,now we just remake it in JS,CSS… so for us Brazilian its like going back 6 years ago and trying to have sex with our X as last resource …so indeed its boring

FWDesign said
We will release soon a project you will be amazed of what is possible with HTML5 and how well it performs on ipad…

Canvas API let you do pretty much everything like Flash Player 8 several years ago. Along with some interesting features in CSS3 that make up the word html5

While I agree that you can do a lot of thing in html5 nowadays, the workflow sucks and all that low level API , javascript’s basic flaw, browser quirks make your development time longer and painful.

Aside from the fact that it works on iDevices and being web standard, there is nothing good to be proud about. I’ll greatly miss the tool, the language, workflow, framework and lot of innovations coming from Flash platform.

Too bad the ecosystem is dead and Adobe is shifting focus already, they even encourage us to jump ship and switch to html5 for ordinary interactive stuff. FYI Adobe proposes CSS Shader to the w3c and it is already in editor draft which means browser will start implementing it sooner or later. Very soon developer will be able to do bitmap filter effect with hardware accelerated in CSS , things that we have enjoyed doing in BitmapData but again with much lower level API .

The future of Flash is in Adobe’s hands and they think its game development. You can’t just do it differently.

RimmonTrieu said

Canvas API let you do pretty much everything like Flash Player 8 several years ago. Along with some interesting features in CSS3 that make up the word html5

Very soon developer will be able to do bitmap filter effect with hardware accelerated in CSS , things that we have enjoyed doing in BitmapData but again with much lower level API .

The future of Flash is in Adobe’s hands and they think its game development. You can’t just do it differently.

flash 8, wow, hope we can use animated gifs soon haha

“Very soon .. bitmap”... and who thinks that developers will spend months creating commercial html5 animation routines on a buggy platform crossbrowser and end up finding them ripped from page source code right after releasing them?

As long as html5 hasn’t reached the level of flash player 10/11 capabilities, I won’t be touching it any day soon.

@tsafi, yup, i too have moved to greener grasses and retired from flash for now, lately i’ve started doing a little in video editing/projects, that’s quit fun too.

^ in my last paragraph’s context, “very soon” varies from 2 – 4 years depending on browser vendor. Eventually it will evolve to some points with very slow pace of adoption. Notice that CSS Shader is also not very flexible and extensive like BitmapData API so there will be limitation there.

I feel you and lot of flashers don’t really like the path Adobe revealed. The point is despite how naturally good it is, the open web is ultimately controlled and driven by large corporations (Apple, Google, MS, Adobe…) there is nothing you can do about, embracing it or quitting for good is matter of choice.

RimmonTrieu said
The point is despite how naturally good it is, the open web is ultimately controlled and driven by large corporations (Apple, Google, MS, Adobe…) there is nothing you can do about, embracing it or quitting for good is matter of choice.

After most of flash use has died out such as templates and banners and so on, there will probably remain two things alive, unity/gaming and high-end animation. From my portfolio only the visually more impressing stuff remains selling, the rest is as good as rip.

RimmonTrieu said
^ in my last paragraph’s context, “very soon” varies from 2 – 4 years depending on browser vendor. I feel you and lot of flashers don’t really like the path Adobe revealed.

My new slogan “no flash for Mobile ,no flash at all ” that’s the way it will be…bottom line people like me or PJ eventually will abandon the flash platform completely(we already stop doing flash ), we don’t play game`s, it’s not and “else if” statement you know

Complaining does not lead anywhere. As someone told me a while ago: Do what you love. In fact I am enjoying my time with Air mobile these days a lot. If this comes to an end I will probably join you in your HTML5 efforts. By then it will be a lot more mature than today.

Devarai said
1- Complaining does not lead anywhere. 2- In fact I am enjoying my time with Air mobile these days a lot. 3- I will probably join you in your HTML5 efforts. 4- By then it will be a lot more mature than today.

hehe

1) that’s not true … at all! never had to call customer services in your life? If so I envy you lol

2) ok, but that’s not exactly the same as creating flash animations

3) that might be difficult, since i doubt i’ll ever start with HTML5 as a serious animation-substitute

4) i’m still waiting for the first “wow” html5 animation, might take a while so don’t keep your hopes up hehe

ActiveDen will never be dead , at least for Envato…
Less or more , it will always make a profit ; there are many many files you know , and even a little profit is always better than nothing.
By the way , opening a thread with a really negative caption helps the situation..?
No…

MarcoSecchi said
Problem is, everybody still thinks ActiveDen is a place for templates, while the marketplace should focus on other things…

Site Templates
Video Players
Image Viewers
Facebook Themes
Flex

All represent areas where Flash is now considered depreciated.