So…
I created the generic Razor RZX -1000 super bike (http://3docean.net/item/razor-rzx1000/2289168?WT.ac=follow&WT.seg_1=follow&WT.z_author=Solair) so it can be in the weekly feature. Standing at an extremely low polygon count of just 2926 and using a single 1024×1024 diffuse texture map to show the full models actual details… I mean, I thought I outdone myself with this model and really focused a lot on it to make is as detailed as possible and fully game ready at the lowest amount of polygons. You just place this motorcycle in your game and your off. I see many models which make it to the weekly feature that have just like three images in it.. Best part is that most of the things featured in the 3DOcean section can be created in a matter of 2 hours or so, maybe even much less.
So my question is what does it take to make it to a weekly feature, because if this super bike didn’t make it, I don’t think any of my models will. It is extremely disappointing.
Solair said
So…I created the generic Razor RZX -1000 super bike (http://3docean.net/item/razor-rzx1000/2289168?WT.ac=follow&WT.seg_1=follow&WT.z_author=Solair) so it can be in the weekly feature. Standing at an extremely low polygon count of just 2926 and using a single 1024×1024 diffuse texture map to show the full models actual details… I mean, I thought I outdone myself with this model and really focused a lot on it to make is as detailed as possible and fully game ready at the lowest amount of polygons. You just place this motorcycle in your game and your off. I see many models which make it to the weekly feature that have just like three images in it.. Best part is that most of the things featured in the 3DOcean section can be created in a matter of 2 hours or so, maybe even much less.
So my question is what does it take to make it to a weekly feature, because if this super bike didn’t make it, I don’t think any of my models will. It is extremely disappointing.
Me being a person that focuses mainly on low polygon models, even I was impressed to see this model. But when I saw the polygon count on it, I remember telling myself; “No way!”. That was what made me just have to comment on the item. Very sad it wasn’t placed on the weekly features though, seems the things added are the things the reviewer likes and by passes quality+package simplicity.
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From what I noticed in past experiences, it is often better to wait for others to notice the quality of the work you produce, and bring it in the spotlight, than doing that yourself and leaving the impression of aggressiveness and self-deification. That being said, the model is nice indeed, and you could even consider it a huge motivation booster to see it priced at “high-poly” levels.
Regarding weekly features and the criteria on which the choices are met, you could also contact the reviewer that approved your file and ask him personally about it, or contact support regarding this matter, and I’m sure someone will be quick to reply on the exact procedure, as they would on any bundle offers, free file of the month, and so on and so forth.
Being over-sensitive never brings anything, nor is setting recognition expectancy too high on ones own work.
As a future suggestion, there’s a “Comment to reviewer” box right at the bottom of the submissions page, and that can be also used exactly for the purpose of letting the reviewer know what you want (it can be a specific price-range, it can be a question, a request for a model to be taken into consideration for weekly features and so on) The reviewers, albeit very competent, are neither super-human nor do they possess clairvoyance as a secret ability, dialogue is the key, and dialogue is best made between two individuals, as in YOU and the reviewer.
All the best, Cb.
contrastblack said
As a future suggestion, there’s a “Comment to reviewer” box right at the bottom of the submissions page, and that can be also used exactly for the purpose of letting the reviewer know what you want (it can be a specific price-range, it can be a question, a request for a model to be taken into consideration for weekly features and so on). All the best, Cb.
I did send the reviewer a note about what I was aiming for with my motorcycle 3D model. What I don’t understand is how could something like this: http://3docean.net/item/jh106-by-jrgen-hj/1819026?WT.ac=weekly_feature&WT.seg_1=weekly_feature&WT.z_author=Freakazz with no comments or a turntable and even only three simple images can make it to the weekly featured and not my motorcycle. And I can see many other simple work that I can make in less then 20 minutes on there as well but I won’t point it out.
See, I’m not trying to get attention to my model and force it into a weekly feature, I’m asking if you people (or your reviewer) are blind, or do not know what actual quality is. Because if every time I create a quality model like this and it never gets featured, I don’t know what motivation I am going to be left to make some more.
Solair said
with no comments or a turntable and even only three simple images can make it to the weekly featured and not my motorcycle. And I can see many other simple work that I can make in less then 20 minutes on there as well but I won’t point it out.
Maybe you should do the same. Add 3 simple pictures of your models and no turntable and make it in less then 20 minutes and it will get featured. Sad really, that bike is the best one I seen on any vender website.
@contrastblack I think us 3D modelers that know what we are doing know what it takes to get a weekly featured 3D model on this site. It isn’t hard to know or even notice, however it does gets confusing seeing the simple 3D models you people even have in the weekly featured list. But it’s simple, quality, simplicity, multiple format, and the simplest description possible. Some of those models on the weekly featured I don’t even know how they get in there. Looks to me, Solair’s bike has all the right things placed where they should be and I can go even farther and state that it deserved to be a weekly featured more then most of the things you people got in there.
You guys have many things on this site to show our models when we upload them. The main thing is a 360 turntable render section. I mean, that IS what shows the buyer the real quality of the model in real-time in just about every angle. How can something with no turntable and only a couple of images make it to a weekly featured?
ClutchTrigger said
You guys have many things on this site to show our models when we upload them. The main thing is a 360 turntable render section. I mean, that IS what shows the buyer the real quality of the model in real-time in just about every angle. How can something with no turntable and only a couple of images make it to a weekly featured?
I could not have typed this down better, the reviewer seriously needs to consider things like that because without it, the models posted in the weekly feature seriously shouldn’t be there. Everyone can understand the race pack collection, it is a collection with many parts. But the rest of the weekly featured models don’t have all the criteria needed to make it in there, starting with no turntable. The model in Solair’s link even has one format only, I have had my models refused because of that and told to add more formats! I don’t know what these people are thinking.
contrastblack said
Being over-sensitive never brings anything, nor is setting recognition expectancy too high on ones own work.
There is a big difference between being “over-sensitive” and knowing you just created the ultimate quality model. But if the reviewer can’t see this quality when he is the one that actually has the model in his very own hands and checking it in an actual application (I hope you people do this to “review” the items uploaded) then I don’t think your real quality models that deserves to be a weekly feature will even get in there. As you mentioned, even his price is at that of high quality models that really rank up on much higher polygons then that. If that wasn’t the case, the reviewer would of dropped its overall price but he didn’t. You also can’t come in here saying that the community decides what goes in the weekly feature because most of those models being sold don’t even have a comment or a purchase. Simply because no matter how good the models are, they are to simple and not very unique. And as DynastyWeapons said, how can a model with no turntable be posted as a weekly feature? The turntable is the main aspect of the model to show exactly what you are getting into.
And on that note, your weekly “Featured Author” is also not all that great. I noticed since I started selling on your site that you people place members with only like 4-8 models. What you should be doing is placing in the Featured Author members that have at least 50+ models, even better placing those with 50+ models who have a variety of different assets as in cars, tanks, jets, planets, texture maps, whatever, you get the idea… Now THAT is a featured author, someone buyers would really want to check up on. Give the buyer something to look at, not some person with just 1-10 models.
contrastblack said
From what I noticed in past experiences, it is often better to wait for others to notice the quality of the work you produce, and bring it in the spotlight, than doing that yourself and leaving the impression of aggressiveness and self-deification. That being said, the model is nice indeed, and you could even consider it a huge motivation booster to see it priced at “high-poly” levels.Regarding weekly features and the criteria on which the choices are met, you could also contact the reviewer that approved your file and ask him personally about it, or contact support regarding this matter, and I’m sure someone will be quick to reply on the exact procedure, as they would on any bundle offers, free file of the month, and so on and so forth.
Being over-sensitive never brings anything, nor is setting recognition expectancy too high on ones own work.
As a future suggestion, there’s a “Comment to reviewer” box right at the bottom of the submissions page, and that can be also used exactly for the purpose of letting the reviewer know what you want (it can be a specific price-range, it can be a question, a request for a model to be taken into consideration for weekly features and so on) The reviewers, albeit very competent, are neither super-human nor do they possess clairvoyance as a secret ability, dialogue is the key, and dialogue is best made between two individuals, as in YOU and the reviewer.
All the best, Cb.
I don’t really get into the forums or even wish to read what others have in mind since all I ever do is just create models, place them up for sale, then be gone. But I must say, you should consider everything said by these members on this thread because even I find it all making perfect sense. Don’t think of us attacking your website and the way you guys work, we are discussing a situation which we are all trying to make sense out of. Because so far the way it is being run makes no sense at all. I’m sure Solair did send a detailed informative to the reviewer about what he wanted, the “Comment To The Reviewer” is not hard at all to spot on the upload screen.
